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As submariners and ex submariners, we, along with the general public, steer towards the Submarine Museum at Gosport Hampshire UK, sited close to our erstwhile alma mater, the former HMS Dolphin, for all matters concerning submarine life whether it be actual submarines, artefact or anecdotal. Moreover, this museum is the national cenotaph to all submariners who lost their precious lives so that we might live. Fitting therefore that we continue to do so and to encourage others to pay a visit and to pay their respects and homage to our fallen hero's.
In addition to exhibits at the Submarine Museum, there are one or two other cities one should visit to view and board real submarines. Chatham, Plymouth [Devonport] and Liverpool are the main attractions for ex British submarines.
The submarine service has always formed a small part of the Royal Navy, but the stories of its hero's and the submarines they served in are legend, producing a disproportionately high output of books vis-à-vis the surface fleet.
However, there are relatively few books about the ultimate hero's, the holders of The Victoria Cross, and even fewer that tell us about the holders life story from boyhood to death. Were there to be, none would be as sad as the story of MAGENNIS VC written by George Fleming, himself a former submariner and HMS Ganges boy on entry. I highly recommend you read this book. It will not only tell you the life story of one of our national hero's, but it will help you to understand the poison, manifest when society polarises its views and attitudes to social structures, and by so doing, destroys the awe and respect due in large measures to a man like Mick Magennis Victoria Cross.
Finally, the aftermath! If you, like me, often wonder what happened to the medals and awards won by these men, you might like to know that in addition to visiting various naval/military museums, there is a 'wealth' of such medals/awards in the Imperial War Museum at Lambeth in London where there is a dedicated VC and GC gallery. Additionally, look at the following site http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/stewart/vcross.htm. To stand [preferably alone] in front of the naval VC's and particularly the submariners VC's, never fails to trigger my emotions and pride in belonging to my Service and to being a submariner.
Just a few paces from these icons, is the VC awarded to Boy Seaman John Cornwell {blue ribbon}.

| GRAVE LOCATIONS FOR TWO HOLDERS OF THE VICTORIA CROSS | |
| IN EAST LONDON | IN WEST YORKSHIRE |
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{Grateful to the author of http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/stewart/loneast.htm and http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/stewart/yorkshir.htm for this information}
On the 13th October 2003 I celebrate my golden jubilee of joining the navy at HMS Ganges in 1953. Just the thought of this medal takes me back to those days, but being there actually looking at the medal itself, is to say the least, humbling. John Cornwell and Mick Magennis are names to be revered and cherished by all for posterity. Wouldn't it have been magnificent if James's medal had been there too?
All necessary details to get this fascinating book are as follows . On behalf of humanity, please read it!
P.S. This article was published on the Northern Ireland Submariners Association Website.
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Subject: Campaign for memorial to MAGENNIS VC. Uploaded 12/12/04
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Historic feats unite rather than divide us by Roy Garland George Fleming, former submariner and author of ³Magennis VC², welcomed the stated intention of east Belfast loyalists to build a replica submarine in honour of Falls Road man James Magennis VC. The replica is to be placed in Clonduff, a Protestant estate in East Belfast where Magennis lived before departing to England. George applauds these efforts to highlight the bravery of a Catholic submariner and Victoria Cross winner during the Second World War. He suggests a similar memorial be sited at James Magennisıs old St Finnianıs School near Falls Road Swimming baths were Magennis learnt skills that made his daring feat possible. From his Midget four-man submarine XE3, Magennis swam to place limpet mines on the Japanese 10,000 ton cruiser "Takao" and became the only Northern Ireland Second World War VC. He was also the only naval rating VC to survive the war and the only person in naval history to leave a submarine under water, complete a military operation and return to his submarine. Yet despite decoration with Britain's highest award for valour, Magennis was refused freedom of Belfast by the City Council while a lack of enthusiasm was evident in west Belfast. After a two-year campaign by George Fleming Castlereagh Council agreed to place a plaque on Magennisıs former home in Clonduff while Belfast City Council sited a memorial in front of the City Hall. The latter was on 8th October 1999, 13 years after James Magennis died in obscurity in England. George points to curious links between another Irishman, British submarines, and indirectly, with James Magennis. The first Royal Navy submarine, ³Holland 1², was launched at Barrow-in-Furness in 1901. The name ³Holland² harks back to John P Holland a member of the Fenian Movement who was born at Liscannor, Co Clare in 1841. Holland had been rejected by the Merchant Marines before he joined the Christian Brothers to teach in Limerick while engaging in scientific experiments. Due to ill health he left the Christian Brothers, followed his mother and brothers to Boston and worked for a US engineering firm before he returned to teaching. By 1859 Holland drafted his first submarine design - one that was never radically altered. He was convinced that submarines would prove essential in naval warfare and persisted with his dream of a viable metal submarine. He duly submitted his design to the US Naval authorities but they rejected it as ³fantastic². Meanwhile, Johnıs brother Michael introduced him to the Fenian Movement and with their help he continued working on a submarine for use against the British Navy. It would carry three men and be small enough to be accommodated on a merchant ship and released under water against British ships. Because of Fenian help Holland could devote more time to developing his midget submarine, which was called "Fenian Ram". However the Fenians stopped backing his efforts and he severed his links with them. In 1896 he won a US naval authorities competition for a submarine design and established ³The John Holland Torpedo Boat Company². But, because of frustrating interference from US Naval professionals, who insisted on changes that undermined the submarines potential, the project was temporarily wound up. John Hollandıs sixth and best design was also rejected by the US authorities and he was left virtually bankrupt. In desperation he accepted a buy-out of his company, which became the ³Electric Boat Company². The US Government bought ³Holland No 6² for $150,000 in 1900 and soon designs and submarines were sold to Japan and Britain. The Royal Navyıs first five submarines were ³Holland² boats built at Barrow-in-Furness. Despite this there was still scant recognition of Hollandıs contribution even though by 1951 submarine design returned to the shape of his prototype and could now exceed the underwater speed of his ³Fenian Ram² half a century earlier. Loyalists in East Belfast hope former Belfast shipyard workers will build a replica submarine in memory of Magennis for Clonduff estate. Michael Copeland UUP MLA and Clonduff Community activist Jamie Leitch are applying to Barrow-in-Furness where the first British ³Holland Boats² were built for the design, and also to British and Irish Governments for funding. Both Holland and Magennis died in poor circumstances. To make amends, perhaps two replica submarines should be built in their joint memory one for east and one for west Belfast tributes to men whose achievements have been undervalued. Surely enough goodwill can be found to use this to mark an end to some of the futile squabbling over a heritage that is intermingled if not entirely shared. Presbyterians gave birth to the United Irishmen and only our mutual enmity hides the fact that - underneath the surface - we have more in common than most people dream of. Email: roy@irishnews.com
Sunday Life Home > News Ulster sub hero to be honored By John McGurk 10 October 2004 A huge wave of support has greeted plans to honour the heroism of a Victoria Cross-winning Catholic sailor - in the heart of Protestant east Belfast. For Ulster Unionist Assemblyman, Michael Copeland's dream of marking World War II seaman, James Magennis's bravery with a memorial in the Clonduff estate is getting closer to reality. Magennis - Belfast's Boy's Own-styled hero - became the only Ulsterman to be awarded Britain's highest military honour, during the Second World War. In an extraordinary act of courage, Magennis helped steer a tiny XE-1 submarine under a Japanese battle cruiser, and attach limpet mines to the enemy boat, anchored in Singapore harbour in July 1945. But the man, originally from the Grosvenor Road area of west Belfast, showed even more backbone when he swam back, to clear snagged containers holding the mines. Magennis was greeted back home with a civic reception and £3,000 from a public appeal - but, controversially, was not given the Freedom Of The City by the Unionist-controlled council. Magennis became Ulster's forgotten hero - dying in Bradford in 1986. But, thanks to the efforts of people such as ex-sailor, George Fleming, Belfast belatedly honoured their courageous sailor son, with a memorial in the grounds of the City Hall, in the late Nineties. And now the area where he lived in the early Fifties - Clonduff - may become another poignant 'port of call', in memory of Magennis. Mr Copeland told Sunday Life that he had received numerous phone calls of support for the plan, to erect a replica midget submarine memorial for the Catholic sailor, in the middle of the Castlereagh Road estate. He said: "My phone hasn't stopped ringing with people who are keen on doing this - both from Northern Ireland and England. "I looked at an estate on the fringes of east Belfast that, basically, does not enjoy any great standing. "But, then I thought that it has something unique - a man who was the only VC winner from the island of Ireland during the Second World War having lived there. "The fact that he was a Roman Catholic is, to me and to most people, an irrelevance. James Magennis's exploits should be a source of pride to everyone in the maritime history of this city." The Castlereagh councillor revealed that he had organised meetings with potential funding sources to help cover the estimated £3,000 cost of the memorial. |
Subsequent to the above article[s] <taken from NI Submariners website> George Fleming told me about some of the mail he had received from high profile naval officers. The following two letters come from such a source. The first {two frames}, from an Admiral of the Fleet has been edited and his address and telephone number have been removed. Admiral of the Fleet Lord Lewin died shortly after he wrote this letter.